GAPS with Dr Natasha Campbell-McBride – A Quirky Journey Podcast #100

Welcome to episode #100 of the A Quirky Journey podcast!
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Dr Natasha Campbell-McBride is a medical doctor with two postgraduate degrees:
  • Master of Medical Sciences in Neurology, and
  • Master of Medical Sciences in Human Nutrition.

She graduated as a medical doctor in Russia. After practising for five years as a Neurologist and three years as a Neurosurgeon she started a family and moved to the UK, where she got her second postgraduate degree in Human Nutrition.

Dr Natasha practices in the UK as a nutritionist and not as a medical doctor. She is well known for developing a concept of GAPS (Gut And Psychology Syndrome), and is the author of

Thousands of people around the world follow the highly successful GAPS Nutritional Protocol to help themselves and their families. You can learn about GAPS on www.gaps.me 

In her clinic Dr Campbell-McBride works as a nutritional consultant with many patients with heart disease, high blood pressure, arrhythmia, stroke and other complications of atherosclerosis. She has become acutely aware of the existing confusion about nutrition and these conditions, which spurred an intensive study into this subject. The result of this study was her book Put Your Heart In Your Mouth! – What Really Is Heart Disease And What We Can Do To Prevent And Even Reverse It.

Dr Campbell-McBride is a keynote speaker at many professional conferences and seminars around the world. She frequently gives talks to health practitioners, patient groups and associations. She is also a Member of The Society of Authors, The British Society for Ecological Medicine, and is a Director on the Advisory Board of The Weston A Price Foundation. She has contributed to many books on nutrition and is a regular contributing health editor to a number of magazines and newsletters.

Episode Description In this podcast Dr Natasha shares her story:

  • how and why she developed the GAPS protocol
  • the influence of her medical training combined with the age-old traditions of nutritional healing that her Grandmother taught her growing up in Russia
  • how these principles helped her autistic son and many, many more of the patients in her clinic and all over the world

The concept of nutritional healing using foods our bodies are biologically designed to eat has been part of traditional wisdom and cultures for thousands of years, but our society has wandered away from these basic principles and is now paying the price in the rapid rise of chronic illness. Dr Natasha speaks beautifully about:

  • the importance of returning to whole food traditions
  • practical guidance in ways to do this.

Dr Natasha makes it clear that although basic biology dictates what foods our bodies need to heal and rebuild damaged cells and to rebalance our microbiome, our bodies are all different and there is no ‘one size fits all’ when it comes to diet. We each need to adjust our diet to what is specifically needed for our own body and the season of life we are in.

You can read more about Dr Natasha’s thoughts on the flexibility of healing foods in this article: One Man’s Meat is Another Man’s Poison.

We’ve used GAPS for our own personal healing, and Dr Natasha is a personal hero of ours. We are delighted to bring this eye-opening and information packed podcast with such a world leader in health to you.   

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Other books by Dr Natasha: On heart disease:

Noteworthy Quotes From Dr Natasha:

"Recent research has discovered that 90% of all cells in the human body, is in our gut flora. So our bodies are just a shell. 10%. A shell, a habitat for lots of microbes that live inside us. And I'm afraid that they're in charge, not us. They're very much in charge. They're reach is not just in the digestive system. They reach to every organ, every cell, every tissue in the body. No matter how far away that organ might be from the digestive system. The brain is far enough."

"What happens when a child or adult has abnormal gut flora? First of all, they can't digest their food well. So they don't nourish their bodies very well, and as a result they have multiple nutritional deficiencies. At the same time, these pathogenic microbes that take over the digestive system of the person damage the integrity of the gut wall, making it porous and leaky, and it becomes like a seive. So foods don't get a chance to be digested properly before they absorb. They absorb in a partially broken down form - maldigestion. And then the immune system finds them in the bloodstream and says, 'you're not food. I don't recognise you as food', and attacks them. It attaches various cells and various complexes to them... the undigested bit of food. Wherever they get you in the body they cause symptoms. And these are the symptoms of food allergy and intolerance."

"The gut is populated not just by bacteria. The biggest and most fundamental population in there are fungi. At least 70 species of different fungi, moulds and microbes that were discovered that live in a health digestive system in a human being... The gut flora in our digestive system is akin to soil. And the soil is the microbial community. The fungi in the soil are absolutely vital. What they do, they grow low, 7 metres long protrusions, about 100 times bigger inside than the bacteria. So this system of fungi in the soil, is the roadwork in the soil. Like the roadworks in our countries. We have our own mycorrhizal (fungi) in our gut. This mycorrhizal grows long protrusions. It goes right through the biofilm, because every microbe in the gut produces little excretions made out of proteins, fats and carbohydrates, making their own little home. Nobody can live out there in the open. When you move somewhere you want a home. So bacteria and viruses and protozoa and other creatures in the body, do the same. They produce these little substances in the body, and they create a little home for themselves. Little walls and windows and doors. furniture and the rest of it. And that home is all mixed up. Because every bacteria, every little microbe sitting there. They all have their own little homes and these substances mixed together. And what they form is this layer of mixed proteins and carbohydrates and fats, called biofilm. So they live in this biofilm. This biofilm coats the whole length of your digestive system, starting from your lips, all the way to the other end. This whole layer of biofilm is cut right through the mycorrhizol, by these fungal protrusions, fungal groups. And this is the roadwork in that biofilm for the soil inside us. Information is passed through this network. So fungi is absolutely fundamental to our gut flora. They are very important."

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